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/chat/ - What do you all think of philosophy? Particularly...
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96825 No. 96825 watch
What do you all think of philosophy? Particularly the relationship between philosophy and science.

Been reading papers for a feminist theory class, and I'm not sure how I feel about it all yet...
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No. 96827
I think some intro level philosophy courses are important to teach you how to think and how to look at problems from a different point of view which is important to science in general, but it's useless for anything beyond that.

What are you reading?
No. 96830
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>I think some intro level philosophy courses are important to teach you how to think and how to look at problems from a different point of view which is important to science in general, but it's useless for anything beyond that.
This. Philosophy is good for some people but as far as science goes, ethics aside, it doesn't do very much
No. 96831
>>96830
some basic ethics courses are mandatory if you want to to any kind of research in any branch of science.
No. 96839
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Not a fan. My philosophy on philosophy is that I make my own philosophy!
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>>96839
Does that mean you're not a fan of your own philosophy?
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>>96827
>What are you reading?
It was a feminist paper critical of science. (https://faculty.washington.edu/pembina/all_articles/Haraway1988.pdf)

The two points were 1) not accounting for the origin of your knowledge is bad because it can lead to overgeneralzation, and 2) the search for knowledge should involve discussions with fellow beings rather than making something the object of research. The first idea is pretty reasonable, and the second is to if talking about people, but it's kinda value what it means to have a discussion with, say, Jupiter as a being.
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>>96830
>Philosophy is good for some people but as far as science goes, ethics aside, it doesn't do very much
Philosophy would call science a search for positive knowledge - knowledge you can write down. I think philosophy's role is to identify assumptions in science that may be problematic. It seems philosophy doesn't really create knowledge in the same way science does (although that's just my feeling, I'm no philosopher). :)
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>>96831
>basic ethics
I've yet to take an ethics course. I know in psychology we have ideas of healthy and unhealthy. These ideas form the foundation on which the value of interventions are judged, but the ideas of what is healthy and what is not are vague and formed by social consensus, it seems. I wonder about ethics, too. On what are ethics ideas based?
No. 96919
>>96839

I think you have to be a pretty huge fan of philosophy to make up your own.
No. 96921
I like philosophy, and I don't consider it beneath science at all.
That sounds like a skewed values system to me.
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